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Prime-time President.

  • Oct. 29th, 2008 at 1:26 PM
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Tonight marks Obama's 30 minute's of prime-time fame.  Are you watching it?  What do you want to see from him? For a candidate who has had trouble with his "celebrity" status, could this devolve into an "E! True Hollywood Story"?  

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dedqgirl wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:03 pm (UTC)
I'd like to see him take this opportunity to debunk all the myths that the conservatives have been perpetuating about him, like the myth that he's Muslim, or that he wasn't born in America, or that he's a terrorist. If I never hear another person say "I don't trust him cause he's a Muslim" it'll be too soon.

People talk about not "knowing" him (we don't know where he came from, etc), so I hope he takes this opportunity to really introduce himself.

It could very well take on the format of an E! special, but the content is worth looking at. It won't be a paparazzi expose', if that was the point of the question.
sophia_sadek wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 11:56 pm (UTC)
Futile effort
I don't think the people who have been convinced about the sinister aspects of the Obama myth will listen to anything the man has to say. They'll simply say, "Yeah, right!" They think he's a liar. It's the standard fundamentalist mind trap.
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samuraigrrrl wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:10 pm (UTC)
i'm worried a bit, yeah. i hope it's more fdr fireside chat and less obamercial.
i want him to put on some marvin gaye and seduce the hell out of some undecided voters. i want him to take our hands, collectively, and say, "i got this". i want him to take off the suit jacket and yell, "i am sick and tired of these m*therf*cking neo-cons in this m*therf*cking government!"
princekermit wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:12 pm (UTC)
So, equal parts Marvin Gaye and Samuel L Jackson?
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princekermit wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:11 pm (UTC)
I don't watch television. Even if I did, I wouldn't watch it. I know enough about him to give him my vote.

I scratch my head and wonder why he's doing it. I agree with dedqgirl in that perhaps he can give voice to assuage some of the rumors floating out there. But in the end, I wonder if people who believe such stuff would even bother watching?
mquinl wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:28 pm (UTC)
Yes, it would be wonderful if he could debunk the rumors about him.
Like his association with ACORN. And Ayers. And Wright. And Renzlo, Farrakhan, Robert Malley, Johnson.
Or his policies that, essentially and inevitably, are socialistic.
Or how he thinks it is perfectly fine to stab a newborn baby in the brain with scissors…

Oops… the only way he can debunk these rumors is by lying. Shoot.
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I can do the very same thing...... - freak2760 - Oct. 29th, 2008 07:56 pm (UTC) Expand
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Is this good enough for you then? - freak2760 - Oct. 30th, 2008 03:17 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Is this good enough for you then? - raptavio - Oct. 30th, 2008 03:59 pm (UTC) Expand
do I need to say more? - freak2760 - Oct. 30th, 2008 07:15 pm (UTC) Expand
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Re: do I need to say more? - raptavio - Oct. 31st, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC) Expand
I - freak2760 - Nov. 3rd, 2008 04:21 pm (UTC) Expand
I'm going to apologize...... - freak2760 - Nov. 3rd, 2008 04:28 pm (UTC) Expand
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I'll certainly try and read them.... - freak2760 - Oct. 30th, 2008 02:10 pm (UTC) Expand
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5 Days later.... - freak2760 - Nov. 13th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC) Expand
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greendemqueen wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:39 pm (UTC)
I hope that he clears the air on some of the things that the McCain campaign is distorting or simply lying about. He should clearly lay out his plans and explain them with care so no more confusion about tax breaks etc. remain. He should just let people know the truth about what he stands for and of who he is. Too many people buy into that bogus "Obama is a terrorist" bull that Palin is spouting off. He ought to tell people that they should listen to him and not McCain or Palin if they really want to know him and what he wants, values, and envisions for America's future. It's all good too!

He probably shouldn't attack McCain too much though if at all, that might irritate some people. He wants to win them over, not turn them off. ButI'm not as worried that since his campaign hasn't been nearly as negative as McCains anyway.

He needs to be clear, understandable and down to earth.



Me watch it? Of course I will!
brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
I'm gonna watch it, cause I really like the sound of his voice.


And I be prepared for what the crazies will say tomorrow.
brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:55 pm (UTC)
guh.

^want to be prepared.
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freak2760 wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 06:59 pm (UTC)
I hope this becomes another Ross Perot moment.
one_horn wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 07:38 pm (UTC)
! It most certainly will not be another Ross Perot moment.

btw: I love your icon. To death.
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copper_1 wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC)
Why can't everybdy just get along? *cries* there is a real battle raging.

I think that the thing tonight will be fun. I hope people like it and are not too put off by it.
(no subject) - castleclear - Oct. 29th, 2008 09:45 pm (UTC)
grace_om wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)
Yes, I'll be watching.

I think he might do well to have some of the people who have been advising and working with him on policy issues speak about him. Many of these people are very experienced and well-respected, not necessarily liberal Democrats, and certainly not "radical socialists." Obama's biggest strength lies in his ability to recognize expertise in others and incorporate information into his policies. Something which has been conspicuously absent from the Bush administration, and doesn't look to be a feature of the McCain/Palin team either.

I think seeing the caliber of people he's choosing to surround himself with could help relieve the concerns of voters who still feel that Obama himself is still too much an unknown quantity.
kittom wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 10:54 pm (UTC)
Prime time
I think it is a waste of money displaying a position of true arrogance or a sign of weakness in not trusting the current Electoral Votes pressing him with over 300 and McCain with fewer than 150.
We have been at this for now how many months/ 30 minutes will do what, accomplish an additional what, who is the real target audience/
I disagree with trouble with celebrity status..I think he has been given a silver platter since the democratic primary..
The real question: Is he now representing the Black America of the White America of the days of John F Kennedy as the Black Camelot?

No, I will not watch...
cazort wrote:
Nov. 4th, 2008 01:08 am (UTC)
Re: Prime time
I watched the commercial (on youtube, I never watch TV), and I have to say that I'm not sure it really came across as much as an ad trying to win votes, as it did, a sort of introduction trying to make people be more at ease with him, given that he's probably already going to win.

The country was incredibly divided after the 2004 elections, I think more so than after the 2000 elections. I really do believe that this sort of attitude weakens America. I think that the infomercial may have a positive effect on Obama and on America, but not so much in that it's going to sway many more people to vote for Obama--just that it might make people who do not vote for Obama feel a little bit happier with him and a little bit more "represented" and less disenfranchised after the person they vote for loses.

Contrast this to the 2004 election. Bush's hard-line message (and policies) seemed to leave half the electorate feeling powerless.
kittom wrote:
Oct. 29th, 2008 11:14 pm (UTC)
If I were to watch I'd like him to discuss simply stuff like
,,,,,,,,, DO I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT?


HIS FATHER WAS A BLACK AFRICAN MUSLIM FROM KENYA


WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN FAMILY.


HIS MOTHER WAS A WHITE AMERICAN ATHEIST FROM KANSAS


WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS AMERICAN FAMILY?


HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND WENT BACK TO AFRICA BY WAY OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY HOW? WAS HIS FATHER WEALTHY?


HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND THEN MOVED TO JAKARTA WHERE HE
WAS ENROLLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL.


WHEN HE REACHED HIGH SCHOOL AGE HIS MOTHER SENT HIM TO HAWAII TO BE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS AND HE WAS PUT INTO AN EXPENSIVE PRIVATE
SCHOOL. HE LATER WENT TO HARVARD UNIVERSITY HOW? WERE HIS GRANDPARENTS RICH?

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUNDRAISER. HOW?

HE 'WORKED' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO. HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAXPAYER SUPPORTED.


PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION, NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES; ON-THE-JOB TRAINING WON'T CUT IT.

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.


HE IS PROUD OF HIS 'AFRICAN HERITAGE’ (A FATHER WHO GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER).


WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS 'WHITE HERITAGE'? (A MOTHER WHO FLAUNTED CONVENTION AND DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD).


SOME MIGHT THINK THERE WAS NOT MUCH TO BE PROUD OF EITHER
WAY.


HE BELONGS, AND HAS BELONGED FOR OVER 20 YEARS, TO AN 'AFRO-CENTRIC' CHURCH
IN CHICAGO THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD'S PERCEIVED FAULTS. (INCLUDING CREATING THE AIDs VIRUS IN ORDER TO INFLICT IT ON AFRICANS).


HE REPEATEDLY WHITEWASHES THE PASTOR, HIS CHURCH AND THE MEMBERS WHO CHEERED AFTER HEARING VITRIOLIC TIRADES AGAINST AMERICA


HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN?


YEAH RIGHT ! !


DURING HIS VERY BRIEF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE HE HAS MANAGED TO AMASS THE NUMBER ONE ULTRA LIBERAL VOTING RECORD OUT OF THE ONE HUNDRED MEMBERS.


BUT, HE IS A GOOD ORATOR. ISN'T THAT A COMFORT? Is there not a simple check and balance here?

Tough questions were not discussed during the debates, have not been forced to date..


samuraigrrrl wrote:
Oct. 30th, 2008 12:36 am (UTC)
Re: If I were to watch I'd like him to discuss simply stuff like
yes, but when his father was born, kenya was a british colony. not that it matters much. he didn't abandon his family, he was sent to america to get an education when kenya gained its independence. many young men were sent to other countries for education. the government took note that obama sr. graduated top of his class from hawaii u and sent him to harvard for his doctorate. the government did not take into consideration that these men would fall in love, start families. they called him home when he was finished with his education. the government had payed for the education, so they should then benefit from it. he worked in government for many years.

as for pictures, there are many pictures of him with his american family all over the place http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-07-obamagrandma_N.htm

as for his mother's religion or lack thereof, who cares?! we live in a place which is founded upon separation of church and state whether you like it or not.

obama jr. did attend a muslim school while in indonesia, he was in the first grade, but he also attended a catholic school there for at least two years. he left indonesia when he was still in elementary school, not high school.

his grandmother came from good roots. you can see his genealogy here.

after columbia, he worked and it was several years before he went to harvard. he has stated many times that he and michelle both amassed a lot of student loan debt during those years.

there aren't really any more questions that justify answers here... you know what, nevermind, this info is all out there. you don't want to hear it and i'm not wasting my time on a racist.

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randy_68 wrote:
Oct. 30th, 2008 01:06 am (UTC)
Watch? Maybe. Just to see if anything different comes off his teleprompter than the usual stump speech a politician would give.

He needs to address:

- The latest bit from the LA Times on the video they're holding and why he won't call for its release if it's harmless as his campaign says.
- Really explain his definition of 95%.
- Why he won't release his medical records other than the one page from his doctor saying he's "ok".
- Why we should believe his retorts of Rev Wright since he uses so many of the mans quotes and inspirations in his book.
- Why he was receiving campaign contributions from the FM twins. (I don't believe he was on any committees affecting them.)
- Why he went back on his promise of public financing.
- Why his website didn't have the security feature for credit cards.
- Why the figure he and Joe give for "rich" keeps coming down.

These are not attacks, I want to hear an actual explanation.
Ease my fears of him being a socialist. Ease my fears of reinstating the drilling ban. Ease my fears of tax hikes cited by Barney Franks and Pelosi. Ease my fears that he won't rubber stamp every house/senate bill that comes along from the majority.

If he can address these, I may consider him.
raptavio wrote:
Oct. 30th, 2008 02:30 pm (UTC)
The LA times is not releasing the video because when they did the article in April based on the video, they were given the video on the condition that they would not release it.

- 95% = <250K a year salary.
- That one page from his doctor IS his full medical records.
- If you read his books, you'd know the difference between the things Wright says that he agrees with and the things Wright says that he doesn't.
- He wasn't receiving campaign contributions from the FM twins. That's a falsehood.
- He promised to work with the McCain campaign to mutually accept public fincancing. McCain's camp abandoned public financing before Obama did. End of story.
- I'm pretty sure that he has little to do with the donation code on his website.
- Keeps coming down? Joe said $150K instead of $250K once, and it was most likely a slip of the tongue. Other than that it's been consistently $250K.

Get the facts. The facts do not rest with the right-wing sources from which you're getting these talking points.
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polarisdib wrote:
Oct. 30th, 2008 04:17 am (UTC)
I am actually really disturbed by Obama's celebrity status. It means a lot of people gushing over him may be voting for him for all the wrong reasons. I think Obama's a good choice because he shows clear leadership skills and he is really invested in improving our relationship with the international community. A lot of my friends, and these are my friends and I love them but sometimes they're stupid, are voting for him because, and I quote, "He just has a different face." That disturbs me.

--PolarisDiB
wildchild12345 wrote:
Nov. 3rd, 2008 09:09 pm (UTC)
Obama wants more war and higher taxes.
If we let Obama win, he is going to give our tax money to buy crack users needles. He's going to send us into war with Afganistan, and totally ruin our economy if we let him. He gets his money from terrorists (his friends).
cazort wrote:
Nov. 4th, 2008 01:10 am (UTC)
Re: Obama wants more war and higher taxes.
And he eats Christian babies for breakfast.

Give me a break.
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