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Matthew Norman writes on John McCain: This bulbous oblong of coiled rage came across as an appalling old waxwork.

He adds: Like many failing generals, McCain is waging not the present war but the last one in which Field-Marshal Rove defeated John Kerry. He wants to shrink a truly Goliathan election into another Lilliputian one, a tactic as misconceived as making the race about mature and dependable character when it is so obvious that the only grown-up in the room is Obama.

Fair to say perhaps, that he's not impressed. You need to read more.

Question: Is McCain really THIS bad? Does he have so little hope in this election? And is he losing his decency as spectaculalrly as he seems to lose his temper?


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jeffxandra wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 01:53 pm (UTC)
McCain is certainly behaving that way. As much as I want to believe in McCain's integrity and honor, at some point you have to yield to the facts.

As the sports analogy goes, "You are what your record says you are.", and McCain, some time ago, lost his way. He has become everything he used to despise about Washington. Even worse, given the lack of Republican votes for the bailout plan he sought to champion, he has become impotent.
valknott wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 02:05 pm (UTC)
I used to have some respect for McCain years ago because I believed that he stood on principle for some issues, but he has decided to sell his soul to the devil in order to try to have his "last hurrah" as U.S. President. In my mind, his image is now forever tarnished. He has proved he is no different than any other power hungry politician who rationalizes their disgusting campaign behavior as "any means to an end." He should be ashamed.
brennakimi wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 02:20 pm (UTC)
Wearing a uniform doesn't make you a hero or buy you integrity or honor. Being a hero and being integrous an honorable makes you those things. I've seen little to demonstrate those qualities in this man.

He seems to finally be losing his grip on his true colors. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
syzygy_lj wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 02:25 pm (UTC)
Yes, McCain is losing his decency. I don't know if the man himself has actually changed, or he's always been like this and has just let his public mask slip, but he's appearing more and more frightening and sleazy as his campaign goes on.

Way before the Primaries, when McCain used to be a guest on the Daily Show all the time (to the point where he was their most frequent guest and Jon Stewart called him the "Intern"), he came across as a very decent man, with a good sense of humour about himself and his career, and politics in general. I liked him. I remember saying that if the Republicans had him as their nominee, they could win, and maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing. He seemed to be a very left-leaning Republican, the kind of politician who would listen to both sides, and had what it took to make some real change in Washington. Although I consider myself a Democrat*, I really did think that McCain could do a good job. I was sure that this election would be very interesting. I have not been wrong on that score, but sadly, I have been wrong on the reason why.

After months of Primaries and now the actual race to the White House, it's like McCain become a totally different person. Gone is the man who seemed like he was in it to really fix things. He no longer seems like a good man, someone who could heal the rift between the right and the left. He's been replaced by someone who is in it to win at any cost, even if it means shedding his decency and fighting dirty. It seems more and more (to me, anyway) that he's desperate to become President so he can finally prove that he's better than his father and grandfather, and he doesn't care who he steps on, what lies he tells, or how dishonourable his tactics are. I think it's telling that even Karl Rove says he's gone too far.

As Obama's numbers go up and his go down, it's clear that McCain long ago gave up on decency. His campaign is becoming nastier and meaner by the second, which is a real disappointment to me, because I really did like the man.

(*In the interest of full disclosure, I am Canadian. I can't vote in this election, but I am following them closer than I am the Canadian election. I support Obama, and I really do hope he wins.)
capra124 wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 03:46 pm (UTC)
I completely agree. At one point, I felt that McCain was the Republicans' best chance at office, but as time has gone on, I've come to dislike the man and his politics. He's losing badly right now, and unless something big happens, that isn't going to change. Although the voter problems in Ohio could help him. We'll see how things turn out. I know where I'm placing my vote, and it isn't with McCain.

BTW, love the icon.
timefeed wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 06:28 pm (UTC)
Agreed. US liberal here, who one bought into what McCain was selling, albeit a long time ago.
siliconshaman wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 02:26 pm (UTC)
Put it this way.. the way he's going, I'm not even sure he'll live through this election. He's losing badly, he knows he's losing badly, and so does everyone else. All that stress isn't good for his heart.

Worst case scenario though, he manages to fool just enough people to get elected [or the republicans do what they did to Kerry and steal the election] Then he drops dead and leaves Palin in charge.

Which is a scary thought.
bridgeweaver wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 03:58 pm (UTC)
He broke my heart long ago.
I actually voted for McCain during his doomed 2000 campaign. He seemed like the sort of tough, savvy operator who had still managed to hang on to some principles that I could respect as a politician. His war service was a bonus, and his championing of campaign finance reform all attracted him to me.

But make no mistake, he began to slide into dishonor long before the actual campaign. When he gave the Bush administration a pass on torture, he broke my heart. I was overjoyed when at first he stood up and said no, and appeared to be taking a sizable majority with him, but he failed his country, the memory of all those he served with, and most critically himself.

I don't know if he saw that as the shameful defeat it was, and if perhaps that began his crumbling, having to rationalize that Saigon embassy-style retreat. It might weigh heavily on a man whom I believed to have integrity until that point.

The title of this posting is apt, it is a tragedy. A John McCain, energized to fight the actual demons of corruption and complacency in Washington might have been a tonic to our ailing political system. I am less convinced than once I was that Obama will be that tonic. But somewhere along the way, all that energy turned inward and festered and has become a fermenting sea of rot. And yes, I am angry and sad and emotional about this, because I wanted to embrace him and I just can't anymore. He has become that which he professed to despise, and that my friends is the tragedy of John McCain.
grace_om wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 04:13 pm (UTC)
Re: He broke my heart long ago.
But make no mistake, he began to slide into dishonor long before the actual campaign. When he gave the Bush administration a pass on torture, he broke my heart. I was overjoyed when at first he stood up and said no, and appeared to be taking a sizable majority with him, but he failed his country, the memory of all those he served with, and most critically himself.

Totally agreed. I keep thinking he can't sink any lower...and then he does. I never would have voted for him, as he's way too socially conservative for me, but it still makes me sad to watch.
bastblack wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 08:56 pm (UTC)
Re: He broke my heart long ago.
"When he gave the Bush administration a pass on torture, he broke my heart."

zumayabooks wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 05:29 pm (UTC)
Deeper concerns
Observing Mr. McCain's behavior, I have far deeper concerns about placing him in control of the executive office beyond his surrender to the dark side.

We have here a man who spent five years undergoing the most severe mental, psychological and physical trauma. It has been reported that he spent another seven years undergoing medical treatment, including surgery, to correct the aftermath of that trauma.

What I have not heard is what treatment he obtained for the post-traumatic stress disorder that there is no way in Hades he could NOT have acquired. I don't care how strong-minded and courageous one is, PTSD is a function of the primitive brain that doesn't respond to logic and intellect. Once it is acquired, it must either be dealt with by confronting the experiences that created it or by pretending it doesn't exist.

The latter choice results in an individual who is an emotional time-bomb, a meltdown waiting to happen. The experiences that left me with a case of PTSD were barely a blip on the radar compared to what Mr. McCain went though, and it still took me literally decades to finally come to terms with it.

The thought of someone with an untreated case sitting in the commander's seat gives me the willies.
polarisdib wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 06:02 pm (UTC)
Yes. It's really unfortunate, too, because most of what McCain claims for himself in terms of working across party lines and getting stuff done is actually true, but now that he's at the mercy of campaign managers and getting much more stressed than I think he needs to be, McCain is only messing himself up at every turn. This is actually a good thing to see before the election, though, because it shows how he works under pressure and how he works under pressure is obviously not very pretty.

ron_drummond wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 06:16 pm (UTC)
John McCain has gone so far around the bend that he appears to fully believe his own lies, as is chillingly demonstrated in this video from his interview with the editorial board of the Des Moines Register:

The way McCain insists, with barely contained rage, that he is and always has been an honest man, pure and unsullied in his truth-telling -- which is tantamount to claiming that he has never told a lie in his entire life -- is a clear sign he is utterly disconnected from reality. It's sad that McCain's torturers in Vietnam broke him; it's sadder still that he remains broken. His rage coupled with the profound shamelessness of his lying clearly demonstrate this. He is a tyrant in waiting; his is the incipient psychosis of the profoundly megalomaniacal.

I do not say these things lightly. I used to have a lot of respect for McCain. But his hiring of the very people who smeared him out of the 2000 race for the Republican nomination and his use of those same smear tactics against Obama made me lose a lot of the respect I once had for him. McCain was a different man as recently as the primaries, but ever since he hired Karl Rove's cronies to run his campaign everything has gone rapidly down hill. The interview clip above, which was shot on September 30th, made me realize that I was seeing a man who lives entirely in a reality of his own invention, a man full of wrath and with no sense of proportion or humility, a man who is borderline psychotic. I wish it were not true, but I am dreadfully afraid it is.

McCain could have used his own brokenness as a source of positive power and vision, a source of compassion and understanding, but instead he has allowed its darkness to overwhelm him, its hunger for aggrandizement to seize him for its own ends.

God help us all.
bastblack wrote:
Oct. 10th, 2008 08:53 pm (UTC)
Yes. It's true.
It's embarrassing to have a Presidential candidate acting so unPresidential.
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elanorgardner wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2008 12:14 am (UTC)
greenpartyfan wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2008 02:51 am (UTC)
I think we're pretty damn scared .. ..even of Fox news

Details: This guy actually talks of how Sarah Palin's "supporters" were outraged because a magazine had no photoshopped her to look better than Obama ....Do you actually want to compare her to THAT man ...at THIS time?
pennyann wrote:
Oct. 11th, 2008 06:24 am (UTC)
Is is not only this bad, he is reaping the rewards of being "that bad" by having to talk people down at his own rally!

The scared guy? He'll vote for McCain. They've scared him too much not to. The lady who refers to Obama as an "Arab" (when I suspect she means "Muslim") will vote for him too, because they have convinced her that he is a Muslim terrorist lover. The people who shout "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" will vote for him too, because they are enraged at Obama, thanks in part to the firing up they get at McCain (and especially Palin) rally events. "You can't trust him!"


I think it is clear who we can't trust. God forbid any harm comes to Obama from a fired up wingnut... the blood would be on their hands.

I used to at least respect McCain, even if I didn't agree with him, but I have been completely appalled at how they seem to not notice the violent reaction they are getting to their attack onslaught. Enough!
hilelorangutan wrote:
Oct. 13th, 2008 02:05 am (UTC)
Okay on the wording of the original statement 'when it is so obvious that the only grown-up in the room is Obama' sort of sums up what everyone's been saying. This sort of one-sided campaign that's been going on. The end always gets ugly, unfortunately, both candidates are under a lot of stress. But Obama has the media on his side.

Here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFPICEq7B6k&feature=related

Fun stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdB1_KFOhnU&feature=related

Obama is a lie. This would make it sound like you think all Republicans are racist hatemongers. But some people actually support the values that McCain stands for over Obama's. Obama and apparently the people that support Obama belittle these people. But at the end of the election we'll find out if Obama is right, or if this still is a Christian nation.
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