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  • Nov. 12th, 2008 at 10:46 AM
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We'll still be posting here until the inauguration - mainly to keep an eye on the realities of the handover and to see if there's a jarring thud as the euhporia of Obama's victory fades and he starts to make some decisions - which you may or may not like.

Are there already issues beginning to arise which may cause you a moment's unease?

Edit: For those of you who know your football (soccer if you must), does the theory that Obama can learn from Redknapp hold much water?

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ratphooey wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 02:35 pm (UTC)
Look, Obama's a person, a politician. He's not perfect, and he won't be a perfect president. He's said so, himself.

Honestly, I wouldn't expect to agree with every single decision he makes, but at least I trust him to make well-reasoned ones. This was not the case with his predecessor.
brennakimi wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 03:49 pm (UTC)
This.

As long as we can easily see a reasonable explanation for his choices without having to resort to "Company X bought him off," we're doing well.

Like the first decision out of the gate... Emanuel. He's a proponent of completely closed borders, ragingly pro-Israel, and arguably racist and crooked. But, he's been appointed to a position that will utilize his strengths, reward his service, and not give him too much leeway to cause a lot of problems. The Chief of Staff is important, but he's an office manager on steroids. Who better to wrangle the horde of people in the White House than someone who is tough, unforgiving, driven, and able to manipulate, compromise, and strong-arm those who need it?

We can see precisely why that choice was made.

And, this automakers thing. I personally thing these companies have made horrible business decisions, and their failure is a reflection of those. This is wholly supported by the fact that, now that gas prices have gone down, stupid Americans (we of goldfish memory) are starting to buy SUVs again. So, what has GM done? Amped up SUV production while closing down other plants. Stupid, stupid, stupid. But, if they were to fail *right now* instead of in a few years when the rest of this nightmare has passed, we could see double our rates of unemployment. It's not just plant workers who would be losing their jobs, but car sales, parts manufacturing, parts sales, domestic-only repair shops could suffer, basic services in cities with plants could fail... It just balloons. And the worse this depression gets, the harder it will be and the longer it will take to get out of it.

I dislike that Obama wants to rescue the American automakers. I do understand why, though.
ratphooey wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 04:12 pm (UTC)
When we bailed out Chrysler lo, these many years ago, the money was eventually repaid. So it's possible that the same will happen with GM.

So long as they start making good cars that people buy, of course.
brennakimi wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 05:04 pm (UTC)
Yeah. But that might be a big if. Also, they should probably stop competing against themselves with multiple cars in the same class.

ratphooey wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 05:17 pm (UTC)
Believe it or not, that can be an effective way to increase market share.
carmy_w wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 04:16 pm (UTC)
As my husband said last night, "that's why they created reorganization bankruptcy laws".
angelviking wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 04:50 pm (UTC)
There aren't really any issues yet that cause unease with me as far as Barack Obama goes. The one thing that is causing me unease is these bailouts. Here is the thing, I was watching CNN last night and they had an interview with the CEO of AIG. Now, as they were interviewing him, they played clips of their "training" - mind you it was at a 4-star hotel where they had spa treatments and such - and all I can say is "Must be rough." And why should taxpayers have to bailout these people when they can't even afford to keep their homes or for first-time homebuyers, to buy a home? Taxpayers are the ones that need the bailout and in a big way - so as Obama takes office in Jan. maybe that should be something that should be first on the agenda. Help out the middle class and in a big way.
realcashgifter wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 05:52 pm (UTC)
I just can't believe
thats it all over...already..

princess2000204 wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 06:58 pm (UTC)
Just watching to see what happens; not much will actually happen until he takes office.
anna_sg1 wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 10:44 pm (UTC)
Glory glory Tottenham Hotspur
Like Harry, Obama makes people feel good about themselves. That's his role now. He is the cheerleader-in-chief. His basic message to Americans is for them to fucking run around a bit. No more dark introspection. No more blaming Bush and Cheney and Iraq and Wall Street. No more whining and complaining. Like Tottenham, America is in trouble. But just as Tottenham has Harry, so America now has Barry. Happy days are here again both in the white bits of North London and in the blue bits of America. Glory glory Tottenham Hotspur. God Bless America.


Can I just say LOOOOL at the article!!!! :D Thank you so much for posting the link. It's awsome. Very funny... who ever wrote it! I enjoyed it a LOT.

Also, there is NO way you can compare Dinamo Zagreb and Tottenham. See, I live in Zagreb and am a Dinamo fangirl but seriously... compared to the Spurs - we suuuck. :) I mean, the best player we had (Modrić) was sold to Tottenham. Nough said.
ysabetwordsmith wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 11:27 pm (UTC)
Thoughts
Obama wasn't my first choice as candidate. I don't expect to like everything he does. However, I don't think he'll blow up the planet or make everyone else hate America. I expect that the aggravating things he does will be just that: aggravations, not flaming disasters. He'll make mistakes; I doubt they'll be unlivable ones. Most of his ideals are compatible with mine.

Where they aren't, I have no qualms about picking different allies for those issues.
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