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... but does the thought of Sarah Palin trying again thrill anyone other than Tina Fey?

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brennakimi wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:00 pm (UTC)
Farewell post be damned!

I'm unimpressed. She'll have to manage to run her state well enough while maintaining visibility in the rest of the country for four whole years. During that time, she'll actually have to start facing some challenges with her disabled child instead of using him as a sympathy tool. I am unconvinced she will be able to keep up appearances. Especially if her daughter's shotgun marriage fails as quickly as it might.

Sure, there's a lot of interest in her, but interest fades. We'll have to see how things go over the next 4 years to see who has a shot at beating Obama. Incumbents have tended to have a little staying power lately, as long as they don't royally screw up... and even sometimes then.
brashley46 wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:02 pm (UTC)
I can't speak for the comrades of Socialist Organizer, just me ...

That said, BRING IT.
sparkstealer wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:10 pm (UTC)
It won't thrill Tina Fey, either.
kevynjacobs wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:15 pm (UTC)
What was it Tina Fey said? Something along the lines of "I don't want to keep playing that woman." (Wish I could remember where I read that [citation needed]).
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mamculuna wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:15 pm (UTC)
She gave us one Democratic victory--I look forward to many more, each time she runs.
tinylegacies wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:21 pm (UTC)
I'm personally looking forward to watching the Republican party implode. It's going to be a civil war between the uber-right-wing conservatives that loved Palin and the moderate Republicans who supported Obama after McCain named her his running mate.
brennakimi wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
Or rather between the social conservatives and the political and economic conservatives. Throw in the moderates and it's a complete mess.

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fmsilk wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
If she does decide to run, I hope she bones up on some geography, history and basic government before. It's no wonder she appealed so much to the "base" of the conservative party. Base being a total play on words.
julione wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:35 pm (UTC)
I agree completely with your comment.
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saavedra77 wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:30 pm (UTC)
Palin has graduated from dividing the electorate to dividing the Republican party. Which, as a Democrat, is find by me ...

Of course, Nixon came back after humiliating defeats in the 1960 presidential election & the 1962 California governor's race to win the presidency in 1968. A lot of people had written him off in the early 1960s, particularly after his 1962 meltdown in front of the press ("You won't have Nixon to kick around any more!"). But he somehow manged to re-invent himself as the man of the hour six years later. Given time, maybe Palin could re-invent herself as well, schooling herself on policy and then convincing us that she's not the fool we think she is.

On the other hand, Nixon was a shrewd, shrewd operator, who mostly just needed to convince us that he'd matured, become more even-tempered. (He was actually still full of paranoia and rage, but he'd learned to fake it really well ...) Palin may not find it so easy to persuade the country at large that she has the basic competence and judgement for higher office.
jeffxandra wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
I was going to bring up the Nixon example as well. Palin could learn a great deal from his example.

The question is, with a pervasive blogosphere (I have no hope for the press), will she be able to get away with some things the way Nixon was able to during his era. The biggest damage to Palin was herself and her readily available history. Those were not concerns for Nixon during his time.
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vernon_j wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 07:52 pm (UTC)
Vernon J. Davis from Omaha, NE 402-516-4401
I would love for her to continue to Govern Alaska and complete her term, and run for a second one. I don't agree with her abortion stance, but I would vote for her for President. Of course this depends on who is running against her.
soccergirlz91 wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
noooooooo....obama/biden all the way...=]=]=]=]=]=]=]=]
kyliej16 wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 10:30 pm (UTC)
A socialist president
How could this country be so dumb?
Electing Barack Obama was practically asking to go poor.
akasa wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 10:38 pm (UTC)
Re: A socialist president
In case you missed it, we have gone poor under Bush a "fiscal conservative."
Re: A socialist president - takemetothesea - Nov. 9th, 2008 02:21 am (UTC) Expand
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ms_maree wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 10:34 pm (UTC)
I don't know, on the one hand, it looks like she's not very bright and this will bring a certain victory to the Democrats next time. And I'm certain the moderate Republicans will be making her life very difficult, in a public way.

But on the other, the extreme right will come out to play, and although they are amusing for the crazy, they do get a bit much after a while.

I'm a woman, a feminist, non-American - and the thought of Sarah Palin having more power then she does chills me.
bastblack wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 10:38 pm (UTC)
Did Palin cost McCain the presidency?

It sounds like some people think so. Whether the rumors about Palin are true or not, the damning leaks are being aired through the right-wing media outlets like Fox News. Palin is getting the same treatment that is normally used on the enemies of the GOP, but this time they are demonizing/swiftboating/scapegoating one of the their own. That tells me the highest powers within the GOP are not pleased with Palin. Palin's career in the GOP will go nowhere without their support. So unless she does something amazing to win back their love, it's game over.
ms_maree wrote:
Nov. 7th, 2008 10:43 pm (UTC)
Did Palin cost McCain the presidency?

Well that depends on which side you're on, I've seen a helluva (more then makes me comfortable) GOP LJ users who think Palin is political genius and it was McCain who cost them - and they are already uploading the Palin icons for 2012. (and most of them are women).

But realistically, I think Palin was more of a negative for McCain.
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blackviolets wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2008 01:23 am (UTC)
This may have been said, but the emerging infighting within the republican party while she was running is probably won't help her even if she tries to run. The woman must have economic backing from some important people to get up there, and with the recent openning of mouths and her reaction to loosing, I cannot imagine her being able to run a successful campaign, be the successful nomination for the Republican party, and then be elected. The odds are too far against her.

But, on the other hand, she maybe able to run for a Congressional seat due to her popularity in Alaska...that would make Congress interesting.
ms_geekette wrote:
Nov. 10th, 2008 02:42 am (UTC)
Totally agree with you on the financial backing...I seriously doubt she would be able to raise enough to be a serious contender for an upcoming Presidential race, especially now. The fact that large amts of $ is required to run saddens me, but in this case I think it's a Very Good Thing. ;-) (And not to mention I think she'd absolutely implode when it came to being truly challenged on the campaign trail.)

Needless to say, I'm disappointed that the Republicans couldn't find (or didn't bother to choose) a better female VP candidate in this instance.
castleclear wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2008 01:33 am (UTC)
Palin in 2012
I'm pretty sure that Tina would be willing to forgo the pleasure of playing Sarah Palin, though Fey is perfect in her humor and imitation.

I'm an alert, watching citizen, not a political pundit; however, I expect S. Palin's political career to end rather quickly even as governor of Alaska, and for her to vanish from the scene like Dan Quayle.
ysabetwordsmith wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2008 02:33 am (UTC)
O_O
The thought of Palin serving any public office is appalling.
morgaath wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2008 06:23 am (UTC)
I would be interested to see what Palin could do if they really just turned her loose.

Let her spend the next 4 years talking to every reporter, answering the hard questions, and fully spell out her platform. Maybe hold 50-100 town hall meetings between now and then, so that the people can ask her questions and really get to know her.

I am interested in hearing detailed reports from her on energy, special needs children, being a working mom, and teen pregnancy.

What are her positions on separation of church and state, constitutional law, same sex marriage, immigration, the economy, internet neutrality, foreign affairs, and evolution?
polarisdib wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2008 07:43 am (UTC)
Nah, it's just predictable. She's going to have to clean up her image, though... and that won't be easy with Tina Fey.

--DiB
only1opinion wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2008 12:43 pm (UTC)
I don't, personally, believe that Palin cost McCain the Presidency. I believe that Obama's platform of hope did a fine job on its own. That said, I don't believe that Palin helped McCain's chances, either. Her incoherent non-answers to questions, her strong beliefs that she seemed incapable of giving information to support, and her overall inability to answer more probing questions than she obviously expected to be asked, made her look foolish on many occasions. She reminded me of a friend who says, "That's not what I learned in school (20 years ago), so I can't believe it's true."

Is it possible that she can get past these issues, not to mention the obvious problems within the GOP, to come back for the Presidency? I don't think so. While the interest in her may fade, the American people don't forget, we just put aside what is not important at that time. I'd be curious how many of the people who voted for McCain did so, DESPITE Palin as Vice Presidential candidate, not because she was running with him.

Personally, I don't think excited is a word most of us would use about Palin. I must admit, however, she did give me some opportunities to break out popcorn for a funny evening.
beavis_the_wise wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2008 09:20 pm (UTC)
I'd be ecstatic to see Palin running in 2012. Can you imagine how funny that election would be compared to this one? It would be no contest by the way. There's no way in God's name she could win the Republican nomination. We got people who think she should run in 2012, and we got people who think she cost McCain the White House. Sounds to me like the divided Republican Party can do better than that worthless "hockey mom."

My guess.... Mitt Romney.
ladylynx wrote:
Nov. 13th, 2008 06:11 am (UTC)
With Romney's record, he's really just another RINO. His good looks don't impress me.
breckrealestate wrote:
Nov. 9th, 2008 04:22 am (UTC)
She gave us one Democratic victory--I look forward to many more, each time she runs.
kofferfraulein wrote:
Nov. 9th, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC)
I love the idea of a female president, but I don't want her elected just because she's a woman.
She sould be elected because she is a good leader & a perfect represetative.

Sarah Palin, in my opinion, is niether. Especially that comment she made about Africa being a country not a continent, really screwed her over
navygrlf14 wrote:
Nov. 13th, 2008 09:49 pm (UTC)
That'd screwed her over?

I highly doubt that it would be someone's deciding factor that she wasn't sure about Africa.
greendemqueen wrote:
Nov. 10th, 2008 07:36 pm (UTC)
NO!! She will take away my rights as a woman! That is NOT ok with me!
navygrlf14 wrote:
Nov. 13th, 2008 09:50 pm (UTC)
and you take away the rights of future Americans by killing them!
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purfectlymesdup wrote:
Nov. 11th, 2008 02:06 am (UTC)
I would love it. PALIN '12

A much better choice for the position.
Dare I say ExPeRiEnCe?
jhubert wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 05:40 am (UTC)
I'm very, very worried about it, and have posted my thoughts on this here.
realcashgifter wrote:
Nov. 12th, 2008 05:58 pm (UTC)
lol
thats almost mean

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