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The Debate: Who Won?

  • Oct. 8th, 2008 at 3:36 AM
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Poll #1274550 Second Debate Insta-Poll

Who won the debate?

McCain by a mile
27(4.5%)
McCain by a nose
28(4.7%)
Tie
50(8.4%)
Obama by a nose
141(23.7%)
Obama by a mile
349(58.7%)

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absurdhero wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 02:44 am (UTC)
Most awkward debate EVER.
acktacky wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 02:47 am (UTC)
First off, icon love.

Second. If either of them got as close to me as they did (especially how close McCain got), I'd cry.

But I don't think that's what you were going for.
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purplehamsa wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 02:48 am (UTC)
McCain's "I know" comes off in a really curmudgeonly way. That ended his awkward attempts to attack that Obama just brushed off (except a few times).
ladylynx wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 02:58 am (UTC)
They're both full of shit.
rspeed wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 04:07 am (UTC)
Hear hear.
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lphybrid wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:03 am (UTC)
obama ftw
lurkitty wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:17 am (UTC)
McCain used too many worn-out and debunked attacks, and failed to talk about his own plan! He said that Obama never talks substance, and then did not give us any substance.
tinceiri wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 04:10 am (UTC)
If you're implying that neither one has substance, then I can totally agree with that.
merenwentari wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:18 am (UTC)
I also agree that this debate was awkward, and I got really tired of both candidates NOT answering the question and going into their rhetoric, but I saw that Obama stopped trying to answer McCain's barbs and did directly answer most of the questions more often than McCain did.

I felt both debates were equally good, in that you got to hear more from both candidates about how they really feel about the issues and the questions that were presented to them.

As for the moderator having "a sense of self-importance", well, he was the Moderator, and he needed to be obeyed because he was the one in control of this townhall style meeting. He had to remind Both candidates repeatedly that there were agreed to timelimits, and if I were him I would have been a lot worse than he was about the candidates staying on topic and within their time frames to answer and discuss.

Overall, I found Obama to be more believable and in touch with the subjects discussed, and I found McCain to be too fond of the use of the words "my friends" (this really began to irritate me toward the end) and too readily falling on Obama's faults while totally ignoring his own. McCain did have some good answers, as did Obama, for the questions presented, but overall I believe that Obama will be better for this country, and for the world.
tina06 wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
Yes!! I was at a DebateWatch at my university, and at one point I said, out loud, "stop saying 'my friends'...you don't even know us." I didn't realize until someone agreed!
commonbabyletgo wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:31 am (UTC)
The debate tonight was pretty boring. McCain should have ripped Obama to pieces.

Oh well, McCain said exactly what he needed to, well, for the most part.
blessedmisery wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 04:23 am (UTC)
You really thought McCain said what he needed to say?

McCain lacks either the fire or the smoothness necessary to inspire confidence in people. Unfortunately for the most part what they say in these debates is of little importance, because it's watered down rhetoric on both sides so as not to scare away potential votes. McCain is not going to be able to pull off smooth like Obama, he needs to go for fire and not be afraid to say things that are left or right of center. In essence he needs to prove he is the maverick he claims to be.
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tina06 wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:35 am (UTC)
I liked that the format had questions from real people, but I like formal debates better....it's the speech and debate coming out of me! I also thought that McCain didn't answer a lot of the questions.
ron_drummond wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:39 am (UTC)
Obama won by more than a nose but less than a mile.

The format was less conducive to productive give and take than the first debate. McCain was smart to keep the character assassinations under wraps. He had more than a few effective jabs at Obama, but more often than not Obama's comebacks laid them firmly to rest. McCain really looked petulant whenever he went out of his way to rag Obama at the expense of answering a question, and what struck me several times was that McCain's demeanor kept switching back and forth between that of a tough guy and that of a spoiled child. And his constant pacing and the sheer unpredictability of his movements struck me as accurately reflecting his character. At his best McCain was commanding in a good way. If only he could be so consistently, but he can't,not that I've ever seen -- he's always erratic whenever you watch over any significant length of time. Not stable or even-keeled.

Obama passed up numerous opportunities to make pointed turnabouts on McCain. But he was very steady, sensible, authoritative, calm, articulate, the very definition of "even-keeled". I was really struck by the question from the retired Navy petty officer -- Obama's answer was distinctly better than McCain's, and you could see by the ex-Navyman's reactions that he thought so too. That was the very moment that Obama won the debate.

credendovides wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 07:08 am (UTC)
McCain's demeanor kept switching back and forth between that of a tough guy and that of a spoiled child

From a bit of a history of McCain I've been reading (Not sure how much of it is true vs spin) that describes a lot of his life, actually. He grew up under the very influential family name of John S McCain, and pulled on the reputation of Sr. and Jr. quite often to get his way.

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tgies wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:45 am (UTC)
Comedy Ron Paul option?
honorable_faith wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:57 am (UTC)
Just answer the question
I don't know why the rules seem to be so hard for all these guys. Just stay on the mark. Senator Obama was calm and assertive (just like on Dog Whisperer) and that took most of the sting out of the negative comments. Both talked about plans that I'll need to read because I couldn't understand them after they tried to explain them!
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0jessicarabbit0 wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 04:02 am (UTC)
Not only was the debate awkward but also quite settling. Only a person who is weak and lacking for words could make such strikes at Obama. McCain has nothing to say and what he has to say is not better than anything Obama has to share. In my opinion McCain has always been a weak and unnatractive person when it comes to honesty, and being "for the people."

What's more interesting is the response from people who either support McCain or are undecided. Right after the debate, responses from certain crowds make it easier to see where McCain's support really comes from. That would be people who either voted for Bush, still agree and support Bush, have no idea what is even going on, actualy buy the bullshit McCain sells personally, or ,sadly, are simply not alright with voting for someone who is black.

Just look back at the debate. McCain is lost and wandering. He can not look Obama in the eye. He doesn't want to shake hands. Where was he after the debate when the only people on stage were Obama and his wife? Look at his interaction with people, alone. His actions were cowardly and anything but friendly. It was ridiculous. It's disrespectful. Obama is not a perfect candidate, as it could never exist, but he is and has been my choice quite strongly ever since the begining.
tinceiri wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 04:02 am (UTC)
They both sucked. Neither one strayed from their script, or their recycled lines, and I just felt like turning off the television after about fifteen minutes of it.
allhatnocattle wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 04:07 am (UTC)
Both chose Warren Buffet for Secretary Treasurer. Interesting. Better then Willie Nelson anyways.
pennyann wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 04:14 am (UTC)
I will state what I said after the first debate: This was not a game changer for either one of them... therefore Obama wins.
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